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Jelena Jankovic on Serena Williams (pictured): “I never saw her [play sluggishly] when she’s leading.” (Bulent Kilic/AFP/Getty Images)

ISTANBUL — Some highlights from players’ news conferences during the WTA Championships:

Li Na and Jelena Jankovic were confused that a fatigued Serena Williams got stronger as her matches progressed in the semifinals and final. “So this is the reason why she lives in Los Angeles, right?” Li joked, seemingly referring to Hollywood’s acting population. “No, I mean, I don’t know ‑‑ I don’t know what happened with her, but when she started the match, she’s already feeling like [she's going to] die. But in the final set, she can serve 180 [kmh, or 112 mph], 190 [kmh, or 118 mph]. I have no idea about this.”

Jankovic was a little more forthright in her comments about Williams. “I never saw her [play sluggishly] when she’s leading. Every time she has a lead, she’s running for the balls and she’s hitting those big serves. For some reason, every time she starts losing, she starts serving slower or not running for certain balls. That’s something that as a player you have to pay attention to. It’s not the first time when we played that she’s doing this. That’s I think her way of playing or maybe when she plays against me. I don’t know.

“But when it’s an important moment, huge serve comes up, so you have to be on alert every time. You never know if she’s going to come slow or a really fast one. So it’s not easy to focus. It’s important for me to focus on my game and not really let those kind of things affect me and not allow me to play my game, but it’s the way it is.

“She’s the No. 1 player in the world, and she plays so well. She’s by far the best player. She deserves to be in this spot. But I think it’s also when you play, winning or losing, you have to be up there and be a good sportsman.”

Agnieszka Radwanska was asked whether it was bad for women’s tennis that Williams dominates the top five players. “Well, she’s definitely really dominating now and beating everyone. It doesn’t matter if someone is No. 2, 3, 4 or 10, she’s winning sometimes playing [so] good that she’s beating so easy even top five players. The whole year she was really playing unbelievable. For her, it doesn’t matter who is standing on the other side of the court. She’s just playing her best tennis. There you go.” Yup, there you go.

• Don’t expect to see Williams on the slopes anytime soon. “I [vacationed in the snow] once and I will never do it [again]. No, I’m a total bikini girl. I can’t even breathe in high altitude. … My insurance doesn’t cover skiing accidents.”

Williams won her two post-U.S. Open events, the China Open and WTA Championships. “I have always traditionally ended my year after the Open. You guys are lucky that I was able to make it out two tournaments [the China Open and WTA Championships]. That’s like a record for me.”

• Li says her journalism background means she can’t read the news without cringing. “The funny thing is when I was finished at the university, I never read the newspaper because I can find so many mistakes. But before I came to the university, I read the newspaper a lot.”

Jelena Jankovic

Jelena Jankovic had some interesting exchanges with the media in Istanbul. (Dean Mouhtaropoulos/Getty Images)

Jankovic doesn’t have much of a poker face. “When I have a smile on my face, I think I get more dangerous.”

• Speaking about her confidence heading into her semifinal clash against Williams, Jankovic pretty much summed up her career. “There’s no reason for me not to be confident. I believe in myself. I prepared very well. I enjoy myself.”

• It’s hard to understate coach Carlos Rodriguez’s impact on not only Li‘s tennis but also her personal growth. “Maybe it’s different, Chinese and Western, because I think the Western people, they like to share how they’re feeling now. For myself, if I’m feeling something, I never try to talk to the team. I always block it. I’m always feeling I’m strong enough, I can fix everything.

“But I think this is a weakness. I think the real strong person, if they feel something, for sure, they will speak out, because they find someone who can help them to make even stronger. So that’s why I was feeling terrible every time I talked to Carlos. But now I am feeling much better, because I try to open my mind a little bit to share the feelings.”

Deep Thoughts, by Li Na.

• More psychoanalysis from Li: “I think when I grew up, the [reason] I cannot show how good I am is because when I won a tournament, the coach was so tough. If I make a mistake [in training], for sure she would say, ‘What? You just win one tournament. Are you thinking you can win another one? Why didn’t you train harder?’ I think she always punished me all the time. I didn’t have [confidence] to show how good I am.”

• Great exchange between Jankovic and the press when she was asked if she thinks she’s a better player now than she was when she was No. 1.

JELENA JANKOVIC: I don’t know. What do you guys think? Am I a better player or a worse player? Technically am I’m better?

Q.  More shots, but mentally [maybe not].  Sorry.  You asked.

JELENA JANKOVIC:  Yeah, but that’s one person’s opinion.

Victoria Azarenka says she prefers to take a longer break after the Slams rather than shorter breaks throughout the year to refresh her mind and body. “I think it’s important to have a little bit of a break after the major tournament, because you don’t realize how much it takes out of you when you go that deep.  Because it’s not only a one‑week event or two‑week event. It’s actually a three‑weeks event because you always get there earlier, and all that drag, mentally and physically, to be able to be there at such a high level, it really takes a lot out of you, especially now with the way the tennis is physically.”

Petra Kvitova was asked how she rates herself against the likes of Williams and Sabine Lisicki for pure power. “Wow. I don’t know. I never played against myself, so it’s quite tough to recognize it.” Fair point.

Williams was asked about the potential for a WTA champion from Turkey. “There is a champion from Compton [Calif.], so anything is possible, especially from Turkey.”

  • Published On Oct 28, 2013
  • 77 comments
    ValGabr
    ValGabr

    Weird stuff from a tennis player...sorry however Serena or anyone else can and SHOULD play the very best and tactically very smart to beat opponents. She wants to serve now slower, next faster or vice versa SO WHAT?? It's her own point to play...if she would be limping when she had no injury at all, no pain...then yes I'd agree Serena or whoever does it not a good display of sportsmanship and close to cheating...however this is NOT that case...

    If you CAN"T beat here, just swallow your pride and try next time

    Peterdetruse
    Peterdetruse

    Context:  I’ve worked 12 hours today on a very complex problem.  It’s nighttime, I’ll have to work tomorrow on the problem, and I am unabashedly posting to distract myself.  In the grand scheme, this thread is tupid.  But it is interesting.  That is no contradiction.

    I hate the Internet.  The Internet fails to do….

    We have people who tie bombs to themselves to accomplish a task.  People who shut down the American government and fight against the poor; and those who collect advanced degrees to prove that Blacks are near relatives to baboons.  Lonely people – those with dozens of unanswered voicemails and those with no one to call.  If only the Internet had controls so that people could be real, and considerate, and if they could not be that, that the Internet could deny them access.

    An Internet that requires a password of a human kind.  That we respect each other and build community – or we don’t get access.

    I had a friend who used to say:

    People suck

    What are you gonna do?

    Tomorrow’s another day

    Sometimes when I read Internet forums – nearly all of them – I think that she was more brilliant than nihilistic.

    OK, let’s begin.

    All of you.  All of you who posted.  Especially those who offended others, I will say something that I LIKE about you.

    I like that you care about women’s tennis.  That you are tennis fans and that the work that these women performs moves you.   Moves you to watch and to feel emotion and to write about it.  I hope you play the game.  Well, OK, brilliantly or barely able to – it doesn’t matter.  I hope you play and have fun and contributes to your health.  I hope you teach your daughters to play.  I’ve lost count of the people I’ve introduced to the game.  I hope that the player(s) you love and defend do well.  I hope they win tough matches that make your pulse rise as they head into the third set tie breakers. 

    I hope you have faith they will win even when most people would rationally think they are bound to lose – and I hope that faith when answered with your player winning the last point is thrilling and inspiring to you.

    I wish that you will become hardcore women’s tennis fans.  So much so that when someone changes the channel on your player’s match to watch men work on their traumatic brain injury sport that you discipline the thoughtless fool who assumed so foolishly.

    Someday, you and I or any of the other posters will be sitting next to each other and our players will meet.  Just as it take Jelena and Serena to make a match, it takes you and I to make the match mean anything more than two people playing for fun.  Maybe even you and I.

    Listen:  As long as its respectful, there’s no wrong opinion.  I love your passion. 

    A thought experiment.  Imagine Serena and Jelena would be bored enough to read this blog.  What would I say? 

    Serena:  You piss me off when you beat my beloved Jelena, but I do love you.  You transcend sport and you have achieved immortality.  We all have demons who alight our circumstance – yours have finite lives to your immortality and should be treated as such.  Listen.  Please listen.  You.  Venus. Your entire family could be the direct result of the prayers of our ancestors even as the whip tore flesh and the last vestiges of hope – or the entreat  to God of a genius African architect seeking even more perfection thousands of years ago.  To me, you and your family are the real world manifestation of the excellence AND BEAUTY of our people.  I draw pride from you.  And I thank you.  The saxophonist Rhassan Roland T. Kirk defined in music and poetry these things called Bright Moments.  You and Venus have my heartfelt thanks for filling my life with many of them.  If it’s not too much trouble, please give me more.  Both of you.

    Jelena:  My favorite athlete, I’m so sorry to say this – I deeply apologize; it’s not right’ it’s superficial….it’s ig’nant!, it is a consequence of my weakness as a man...but I can not lie.  You are ridiculously hot.  You are impossibly cute and your body is so perfect I, I just can not fail to watch your tennis.  And Lord knows I have.  And as I became expert in your game I found you to be absolutely amazing.  You are funny, engaging, intelligent, driven and so special.  You have a family that would never allow a minute of hunger in spirit or love and your brother Marko is doing work that should place him in the tennis hall of fame someday – where you belong.  JJ, can I ask a favor?  Pretty woman, could you wear bikini shorts at the AO?  If it’s not too much trouble, please.  Please?

    Say it loud!  I love JJ and I’m proud!

    Naw – no way they’d read this.

    But for you others, I celebrate your passion, whether you/I agree or not.  I can not wait for 2014!

    TonyMHayden
    TonyMHayden

    Li Na needs to learn her facts before she starts being a passive aggressive ..Serena lives in Florida, and I know that big headed Cheshire cat Jankovic.. isn't running her mouth... you haven't even won a slam. You just made it back into the top 10 .. what after like four years .. she is a joke, she is one of the rudest players on the tour .. please go back to Serbia fake 

    pyro21
    pyro21

    I think Li was just joking around and didn't really mean much with her comment. Jankovic was just a sore loser. She went into great detail whereas Li was laughing during hers.

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    It appears that *Some People have *Not taken the time to really follow, and get to KNOW ~~ Serena Jamek Williams.
    Of Course there is a bit of *Flippancy - even a bit of arrogance!!!  Did you expect *"FALSE  HUMILITY" and *"GROVELLING SERVITUDE?"   From The Best Ever?
    These people know a totally different Serena Jameka Williams, from the one - many Tennis Fans know. Can we have examples to show this personification of aggression you guys have seen? (Beside the one people are still on about ~~ at the US OPEN vs Kim Clijsters & The Lines Woman who called her Foot Fault .. resulting in handing the match to Clijsters).
    I remember her ~~~(i) Comforting Sabine Lisicki after Sabine injured herself and burst into tears & had to with-draw  http://youtu.be/E3kX--rw744  (ii) Check *THIShttp://youtu.be/07psUgGZeIA   *This~~The" Comforter of tears ~~ of Sorana Cirstea AND ENCOURAGING WORDS to her OVER the LOUD Speaker for all to hear ~~ from the podium.(iii)  Serena  Applauding good shots from opponents and ACTUALLY SAYING (Loud enough for he microphone to pick-up) a)  *"Good shot" and *"Yes! - You beat me!" (on being passed at the net (iv) I remember her Laughing in *Enjoyment* ~~after LOSING a point, in her recently concluded match against Aga Radwanska  http://youtu.be/gdYB23-JmM0 ~~ (v) I see the affection for her ailing sister and her TELLING The Entire  World  that  ... *"Venus is such a strong  motivational, inspiration to me (Serena)"

    And there is SO many more examples  ~~  But Restraints of Time and Space cause - Limiting. 

    makouria
    makouria

    So much sour grapes and jealously  from Jankovic especially, the queen of drama. She has some gall to complain about sportsmanship.   They cannot beat Serena , so the next thing to do is criticize her, stop the whinning.

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    A Player can not and should not try-to ~~ be using their Top shots ALL the time, on every point. (WE did an International Tennis Federation  ITF -Course ~~ some time ago now ... as ... (i) a Player (ii)  a Coach and (iii) an official.  We were told  that one cannot maintain one's highest level of play through out a match. We should recognise *"The Important points" (Such as Break Points, when we should be able to bring-up our play ... to another level. I only partially understood. HOWEVER - by studiously watching Serena play ... it is clearer to me now. Should Serena try to serve at 115 to 120 Mph on ALL Serves? She would burn herself out. (*"IF" - she wants to serve her best serves ~~ Four in a row - "to prove a point"  (i) To herself, (ii) her coach, (iii) To players like those speaking above, (iv) to aficionados like myself - She has proved that she can win her game at 15/0 : 30/0 : 40/0 -  Game) She has done it already.  
    Thus (as Miss Jankovic Points out) Serena puts out, and can make her very best effort on - an important point (Such as a break point) AND When she is sluggish and falling behind  *"IF"  -  she played at her top level every single point (Which IMHO -  Some {{The Misses Sharapova and Azarenka - come easily / readily /  to mind}} One would burn out in *THAT*  match and ~~ In one's Total Career. The Clever players and coaches pace themselves like Marathon Runners, and can play in the Top Tier ~~ Well into their 30's (Following the example of Li Na and even 40's  - as Miss Date-Krum and Martina Navratilova did)    

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    Miss Jankovic ~~ It is a trait of *"a True  Great CHAMPION" - That they can come from behind. They can ~~ WILL  themselves *"Out Of  SLUGGISHNESS!!!"  They can win when NOT feeling at their best. So One is sluggish and falls behind and STILL  ~~ Pull off the win. It happens ALL The Time in ALL Sport..    
    Slowing down the game and using "Placement" more  ~~ or Putting more Top-Spin Or Under slice ~~ are legitimate tools, in Tennis ~ If Serena  *"Reads" your playing style and ADJUSTED to it as the match went along that shows *Good TACTICS" ... NOT  Gamesmanship (poor sportsmanship).  
    Has anyone ever told you that ~~*"It is the poor Carpenter that Blames his Tools? (!!!!!!)" 

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    Come On  (!!!) (???) 
     What are they querying? What is their premise?
    Are they suggesting that Serena Could have won 6/Love : 6/Love   O.Kay  ~~ Then ~~ (more realistically ~~They'd have been happier to have been beaten ~~ Like 6/3 ~~ 6/2 (???) IF ~ Serena wanted to? Is she - Soooo Much better than they are? Could she make the scores *close* (2  Straight Sets -  instead of  3 Sets?
    AS to *motive* for Serena allegedly ... playing *Cat and Mouse" with the two of them ~~WHY? ~~  To make THEM look better and herself look LESS  dominant? Why ~~ She felt sorry for them? 
    They have both played  too much tennis not to have *"Warmed-Up" and *"Got into" - some matches as they went along! steupse!!! . 


    tfaw
    tfaw

    dude looks like a lady, accordingly to steve tyler.

    petroleum
    petroleum

                You know you've got into the heads of your competition when in defeat they start to question your sportsmanship....ROFL  Coming from the likes of Jelena Jankovic....unbelievable

    mamiejane
    mamiejane

    Watching the ESPN documentary on Jimmy Connors last night put a lot of the Serena comments in perspective. Connors was presented as a jerk for wanting to win and being relentless against competitors. It was kind of heartbreaking to see that Aaron Krickstein is still smarting over his loss to Jimmy at the US Open. I think it's unfair to be critical of Serena for using all the tools available to her to win but it's certainly not the first time that's happened.

    AlysePOwens
    AlysePOwens

    This is one sad state of affairs. The YEC is over and done. Clearly the Best player won and personally I think jj and na are silly to think someone would play to help them win? Come on and get real, instead of criticism of Serena and her game, they better take some notes on how to win when you've hit the wall and the finish line has not been crossed. Serena pulled out all the tricks she's learned from a long and successful career. The will to be the best time after time, a winner never quits and a quitter never wins. Sore losers and whinners just show a lack of Will and are always looking for someone else to blame. WTF, Serena didn't do what you expected her to do or what you did, LOSE? Give it a rest people, I'm sure the Reigning WAY CHAMPION is doing just that.

    GOSFIELD
    GOSFIELD

    I think the ladies should just go out and play the game to the best of their collective abilities and keep their mouths shut! While this might be difficult when they are being goaded by the media, their pronouncements frequently reflect a paucity of logic that is the direct antithesis of the manner in which they approach the game. Often they are quoted out of context so that they frequently appear catty and jealous. It detracts from the beauty of the sport and is extremely disconcerting for the avid sports enthusiast who simply enjoys the game and the  level of competence of the players regardless of who prevails. Tennis is a beautiful sport and the near perfection on the court with which these people play only increases its beauty.  At the professional level, the sport is beauty incarnate!  So many factors are built into this equation in which the difference between opponents is infinitesimal. These factors are unpredictable, vary from day to day and indeed from minute to minute so that on any given day, one of the top few may prevail over the others. So here's to the sport of tennis and its unpredictability. Our leading Lady has had her ups and downs and at the moment there are more ups than downs. But was not that also true of those who preceded her at the top? There is an intrinsic inevitability associated sports played at this level. All the players KNOW this and work diligently to forestall that certainty. 

    So. . .

    Let's enjoy the game as it is played IN THE MOMENT and put aside all the tripe and nonsense that the media inject into it. Their interventions are ugly and detract from the beauty and perfection that one can see in each and every one of the superior players. Would that we could simply enjoy the game without having to read the swill that sports writers foist upon us. 

    lloydsed12
    lloydsed12

    They know they can't beat her, now they're joining Sharapova on the off court personal attacks battle on Serena to degrade her legendary and iconic status. Too little too late, Serena is an eighteen year veteran ...lmaoooo!

    She's played in 3 generations and beaten them into pulp!

    Hitman
    Hitman

    Sir Hyena is a thug and PED abuser.

    aidanhell
    aidanhell

    I don't understand what all the fuss is about. All players play head games with each other. Anything, any of them can do to throw off their opponents and gain an advantage, they will do. Head games occur in every sport, in every line of business. It makes the sport more compelling, more interesting.

    When it comes to sports, however, I would really love to know why no tennis journalist, nor reputable site, has ever investigated the possibility of doping in tennis: why top players are hardly, if ever, tested. Panic rooms, embolisms, remarkable recoveries from injuries and brutal matches, gluten - free magic...its truly, fantastic. If a top player tested positive, the sport would suffer devastating damage. 

    in any case, the question begs...

    Peterdetruse
    Peterdetruse

    Yup, the old rope-a-dope rears its head again.

    The tournament is over.  The WTA is strong and 2013 was full of great entertainment and this small group of women from #1 to #200 have my thanks for bringing the most interesting sport to the world.  This is not the WNBA.  Women’s tennis is compelling.  

    Jelena has had a fantastic year and she exited 2013 with class and as one of the best of the best.  As has Li Na.  I’ll be upgrading my ticket if those two should meet in any 2014 event that I attend. 

    I don’t know what was happening with Serena, and I’m a person who has paid to see her play and have cheered her on.  If you think I’m a Serena hater, you’re not rational.  She played without any visible impairment on big points over and over.  Could it have been a head game?  You bet.  It does call into question her sportsmanship, but the fact is that most of the time she’s a consummate sportsman, articulate and intelligent.  I’m no psychologist, but it seems as though she can go into modes where she is another person, and one that I can not respect.  Being a Black athlete in a White dominated sport with a tradition of racism, I can give her a pass.  Indian Wells, horrible line calls (remember Jennifer at the Open?), and the pervasive bigotry – imagine being Serena and reading some of the comments “fans” make on the web?  Even in this thread.

    I can’t understand her sometimes, but it’s no contradiction to say that I can understand “it.”  I wish her and her beautiful family well.  Against any other players, I’m cheering for her.

    I give the sporting press and the Tennis Channel poor marks on the coverage of the match – yes, you too Lindsey.  Serena was not injured and not one word was said that provided viewers insight or reflection on the fact that an apparently injured or “tired” player played completely normally when a point mattered.  Too many excuses are made for players who are scripted to win, but if Jelena had behaved like that a criminal psychiatrist would have been brought into the commentary booth.

    I can remember a time when women’s tennis was on the ropes and about to go the way of the WNBA.  Without competition, without rivalries, those seats will go increasingly unfilled and the checks will get smaller.

    Speaking of which, has anyone seen the Taiwanese player Su-wei Hsieh playing doubles in the final?  Unbelievable talent at the net.  Dr. H!  “Michael” Hseih!  Do yourself a favor and DVR that match before they stop broadcasting it.

    Jelena Jankovic – thank you for a great season.  You are the most interesting player in tennis.

    DanielLeeHorton
    DanielLeeHorton

    Greatly disappointed in Li Na's but not surprised at Jelena Jakovic post match description of Serena's play. Every top player (except perhaps Rafa Nadal) save their energy when losing a game and try to focus when winning the big points. If the serving player is already 40-0 why chase down every ball? The smart players now that they should put their foot on the gas when they are leading 15-0 when serving or 0-15, 0-30 when receiving. Serena managed her exhaustion superbly and that's what makes her a champion. Roger Federer does this in almost all of his matches, Sampras did the same and neither were accused of not being a good sportsman. I have been watching tennis for over 40 years and Serena's strategy is not new! Li Na and JJ are both sore losers. Both should be grateful Serena allowed them to win a set! Silly mean cry-baby girls! How do they expect men to respect them when the cry foul after a loss. They should cry from frustration at their own weak strategy and game or do not cry at all! 

    RobSmith1
    RobSmith1

    Jankovinc is the definition of a sore loser, why can't take her losses with pride? you will never be the first nor the last to be outwitted on a tennis court by one of the greatest women players to have ever played the game lol

    RobSmith1
    RobSmith1

    They know they can't beat her mentally even when she's physically fatigued, now they're resorting to personal attacks ....just laughable.

    abosst32
    abosst32

    Jankovic  “I never saw her [play sluggishly] when she’s leading. Every time she has a lead, she’s running for the balls and she’s hitting those big serves. For some reason, every time she starts losing, she starts serving slower or not running for certain balls.

    I'm a huge fan of tennis, but I'll admit that I don't really play the sport. So maybe somebody can help me understand JJ's statement here. If you're winning a match and your opponent is clearly not trying as hard as they could...HOW/WHY do you end up letting them claim the lead in the match and go on to win??!! Clearly I'm missing something. 

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @makouria  I agree from the top of my head to the sole of my feet. 
    SOUR  GRAPES sums it up nicely.

    wtmommy
    wtmommy

    @tfaw To whom are you referring? Please be specific with your childish insults.

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @petroleum ~~  
    Exactly ~~  Is it Gamesmanship (???) Hah ~~ If Serena Kept winning all her matches - during this year ~~ She had little Time to Relax (Either her *Body or her *Mental Capacity). Allowing her to construct certain points (especially against different Opponents)
    The Earlier one is knocked out of a contest ~~ the more time one has to recuperate ... prior to the next Tournament  tests their Skills - mental and physical)  
    They appear to me to be looking for excuses, and have been MISLEAD into making foolish statements. 

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @mamiejane  I wish i had known about and seen - that documentary!  
    I don't really approve of gamesmanship if it is carried extra far and becomes cheating in my eyes. (Case in Point ~~ Victoria "Vika"  Azarenka calling *a Medical Time Out" when Sloane Stephens had the momentum against her in the Australian Open in January. Medical Time Outs are not for Panic Attacks and to catch one's self  {{As Azarenka ADMITTED she did}} They are for "Injuries and Cramp"}}  
    Those who are haters of Serena are IMHO - usually racists - or Tennis Players who cannot defeat her 

     

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @AlysePOwens  I agree ... Additionally  easing up on a player (throwing points and games)  Is not wise nor kind.  Often momentum LOST ... is not always regained Also  One gives the opponent false hope and makes them think that they are better than they really are. This is not compassionate 

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @GOSFIELD  I agree ~~It is Like looking in a mirror  their criticism ... reflects badly on them. Or when one points one's fingers be careful because your other fingers are pointing back at you . 

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @lloydsed12 
    The more they  talk the more these haters expose their jealousy. AND ~~ The more people rush to her defense - as is seem here-in. They also give Serena more motivation to beat them the next time that they face each other across the net. Use Maria Sharapova as an example and take warning. Since Sharapova  unexpectedly defeated Serena in the Wimbledon Final in 2004 ~~ Serena has embarrassed her time and again. No matter where in the draw she meets Sharapova .. Serena comes with guns blazing!!  

    maria_p
    maria_p

    @lloydsed12 

    There is a reason why all 3 generations have had problems with the Williams' attitude. Something is missing. She is the best, no question about that. But she is arrogant, she uses gamesmanship, she is aggressive, she doesn't respect others' opinions, she makes offensive remarks about her colleges. All those things lead to the need of constant protection of Williams' image. But the problem is not her appearance or the color of her skin, the problem is not Sharapova or the others, the problem is Miss Serena Williams herself and her incredible egotism. I am a fan of Venus Williams and her graciousness but not of Serena. She is a totally different person. She may win 25 Grand Slams and beat them all but she wouldn't be the most loved one. That's for sure. 

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @aidanhell 
    Quite  a few HAVE tested positive (usually for performance enhancing Drugs such as Cocaine ~!~ *NOT  so many for Steroids. We miss them & they return. We ask where have they been and find they have been on a suspension!. Famously Martina Hingis ~~ Mario Cilic ~~ Richard Gasquet ... there are more - To the best of my knowledge ALL in the top ten are regularly tested. You only hear about it when they test positive! Who goes around telling the Media X or y person has NOT tested positive? That will not sell the story!  

    MsShaynaT
    MsShaynaT

    @Peterdetruse the GLITTER QUEEN (Jelena Jankovic) practically invented on court theatrics. This is laughable-bwahahahaha

    YvonneW
    YvonneW

    @Peterdetruse - YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!

    If you want to talk theatrics - let's talk about Jelena! Every single one of Jelena's matches is "look at me, please" With the constant unnecessary "panty shows" she put on. She falls, splits, bends over, adjusts her shoe laces, even changes her underwear ON COURT! She tries too hard to be sexy. Maybe she grew up hearing how pretty Ana Ivanoic is . So she tries in a very weird way to draw attention to herself. That is not tennis - it is "ridiculous" IT is DRAMA in the EXTREME. And I have not even touched on her quick serving, "medical" time-outs, and the constant shouting on the court at herself or her brother. Then comes those fake smiles. She is the phoney, the wanna-be DIVA. Please change the hair!. That slicked back hair without a middle/side part make her look like a non-feminine hard-faced, huge foreheaded non-human. Personality is completely unflattering....

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @RobSmith1 
    I agree about personal attacks ~~ They'll be *FALSELY Naming ~~ *"The next illicit  love affair" - of  Serena's soon. What is their problem? Serena's Private Life should not be any of their business. 

    wtmommy
    wtmommy

    @abosst32 JJ's statement was nothing short of ridiculous. I've been watching tennis nearly 40 years, and I play casually, too. I've seen many top players pull back a bit if they want to save their energy for the next set, etc.; that is not gamesmanship, but rather a plan of attack. RosDopwell is right about the best players employing multiple strategies. It's why so many players have brief periods of success, followed by years of frustration. When the Williams sisters were novices, they had lots of talent, but it took a few years before they developed more strategies, rather than just relying upon their power.

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @abosst32  J J ~~ Slowing the pace in many sports is a legitimate tactic. Sharapova, Azarenka and *Others ... have one tactic ... hit hard and hit harder.  I have seen Serena hit her way out of trouble as well. However if Plan 'A' is not working and you try plan "B" and still losing have a plan "C' . That is you are hitting pretty text book shots... and your opponent, is getting the upper-hand. You then hit harder and it gets worse ... TRY  ~~ *"Hitting with Top-Spin" or "Under-slice"  .. try ... "drawing your opponent to the net with a drop shot and then lobbing them!
     See  *This point and Serena loses the point and laughs. Perhaps in appreciation? - She also appears to have really enjoyed the point - Like club players would and tease each other about - even exaggerate a bit {{ Like a fisherman's story. The One (Fish) that got away keeps getting larger}} at being out-smarted ... Aga Radwanska bring her in TWICE... then lobs her and Serena runs them down ~~ For the Hot Shot of the day!   http://youtu.be/gdYB23-JmM0

    tpwarren23
    tpwarren23

    @maria_p @lloydsed12 Attitude. Most weren't a fan of Venus either until she started too not win. You can save your "I've always loved Venus" like for someone without a brain. All off  your claims against Serena are dishonest b/c you cite no proof to back them up. You can't just call someone an alien WITHOUT proof. So give me some examples:

    1. Give me an example in which she was arrogant beyond belief

    2. She's aggressive? Are you retarded? She's a gladiator, so basically your claim  means that she won't lie down  and let your favorite win

    3. She doesn't show respect for others' opinions...what does that even mean? Anyway, examples please. 

    4. I've seen her colleagues make way more remarks about her first, including Sharapova who kept making remarks about Serena's image. 

     Just admit that you're bitter and upset that Serena won't give in. No one is ever the most loved and I doubt that that's what Serena is going for anyway. 

    wtmommy
    wtmommy

    @maria_p @lloydsed12 I'm really tired of all this nonsense about the Williams sisters' "attitude." I've followed their career since I had the privilege of seeing both of them live at the 1999 US Open, when Serena beat little miss cokehead racist Hingis, then hours later when the sisters teamed up to win their doubles semifinal match against some unremembered European opponents. Both are actually polite and intelligent, but we all need to remember how much crap they've endured from some of their fellow players and tournament officials, as well as from the press and some audiences, much of it based upon racism. How would you feel if the entitled country club set tried to make you feel uncomfortable in the locker room and off the court? If they hurled racial slurs at you? The list is endless. That sort of taunting could unnerve the strongest person; aside from that, I'm not sure they've completely recovered from the tragic murder of their older sister and personal assistant, Yetunde. Both sisters are perfectionists who demand much of themselves. Often, what people mistake for arrogance is actually the sisters expecting nothing but the best of themselves. I've seen both of them behave with compassion when dealing with fellow players who were injured or struggling. Serena often employs sarcasm, which can be misunderstood by many people of inferior perception, such as someone who writes "colleges" when she must have meant "colleagues." I've never seen Serena use gamesmanship; as she often states, she is in her own head when she's on the court. Nothing short of victory is good enough for her or for Venus, though illness has forced Venus to lower her expectations a bit. I also think Serena became even more driven after Venus' diagnosis, let alone after her own life-threatening bout with an embolism. She's aiming at history. If you don't think Justine Henin or Maria Sharapova is arrogant or egotistical, then you really do have perception problems. One must have a bit of a pronounced ego to play an international sport, and I'm someone who really has a problem with egotists. I can honestly say I never feel that way about the Williams sisters. As with all humans, they make an occasional misstep, but never in a vicious kind of way.

    ThalieDaniel
    ThalieDaniel

    @maria_p we - I can agree with some of your viewpoints. However, I can say the same thing about Sharapova; Li Na; Jankovic & many others! Tennis players are not perfect -they are human beings! Tennis players do a job and they do it the way they can to win. Anyone who starts off complaining about another persons ethic is not looking at their own game! On the court, It doesn't matter if you are the well like person; look at Pete Sampras & Agassi & Rodger & Rafa & Novak & Del Potro - different personalities - not perfect and they try their best to WIN! The men do a much better job keeping their dislikes/likes about their opponents to themselves; shame on the Women for falling to the drama of the media. Furthermore, the problem is that people really go out of their way to say they dislike Serena for the things she does yet they overlook that other players do the same thing - Hypocrite! If you are a lover of Tennis, the game, then you will see that this is the case! You can like whom you like but when you start to criticize one player for doing something that many has done then you all also devalue your credibility as a sport fan!

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @maria_p @lloydsed12 You know a totally different Serena Jameka Williams ... from the one many of us know.  I *do* agree that Venus Ebony Starr Williams is the sweeter of the two 2 Sisters. Can we have examples to show this personification of aggression  you have seen? (Beside the one people are still on about at the US OPEN vs Kim Clijsters). I remember her 
    (i) Comforting Sabine Lisicki after Sabine injured herself and burst into tears & had to with-draw  http://youtu.be/E3kX--rw744  (ii) Check *THIS http://youtu.be/07psUgGZeIA  and (iii) *This~~The" Comforter of tears ~~ of Sorana Cirstea AND ENCOURAGING WORDS to her OVER the LOUD Speaker for all to hear ~~ from the podium.(Iv)  Serena  Applauding good shots from opponents and ACTUALLY SAYING (a) saying *"Good shot" and *"Yes! - You beat me!" (on being passed at the net (v)  I remember her Laughing in *Enjoyment* ~~after LOSING a point, in her recently concluded match against Agga Radwanska  http://youtu.be/gdYB23-JmM0 ~~ (iv) I see the affection for her ailing sister and her saying ... *"Venus is such a strong  motivational inspiration to me (Serena)"

    And there is SO much more ~~ 



    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @maria_p @lloydsed12 
    It appears to me that we are looking at two different perspectives of Serena's and (Venus Ebony Starr's - for that matter)  We Love Them and Serena has shown us a delightful side to herself. The few incidents (Like the U S Open Stolen from her by the *Foot-Fault call*)  have been blown-out of all proportion.
    Check the number of people who follow her on ONE of her many Web Sites. *"The ~~ *We LOVE Serena Williams" ~~Webpage on facebook.
    She is well loved and JUSTLY  SO! 

    MsShaynaT
    MsShaynaT

    @maria_p @lloydsed12 Who cares if you love her. That's not why she plays tennis-haha. That's the problem with all you Serena bashers. Her goal is to WIN. That's it. And lots of people love and respect that kind of tenacity. Only jealous people try to find fault in someone's pursuit of their goals and their success. 

    lloydsed12
    lloydsed12

    @RobSmith1 Good one lol this known Serena hater is a Mrs doubtfire albino on grade A steroids lol!

    Not a good time for Serena haters lol

    aidanhell
    aidanhell

    @RosDopwell @aidanhell The top ten are not tested regularly. They are rarely, if ever, tested out of competition. Armstrong and Jones, two recent "heroes" who tested positive for banned substances, never tested positive in competition. And, look at the Agassi case: he tested positive for meth in 97 and those results were never released. That in itself shows how afraid the ITF is of any negative publicity. Corruption rains from the top down, not the other ways around: if Cilic tested positive, imagine what the more elite athletes are doing. it begs the question.

    RosDopwell
    RosDopwell

    @YvonneW @Peterdetruse 
    Yep! J J  is always trying to steal the thunder! And it might well be because Ana Is such a beauty. They grew up together in Serbia - along with 'D' Joker (Djokovic)
    It MUST be difficult to invest SO much into one's tennis, just to have Serena Swoop down and snatches it all.
    I was glad to see BOTH Ana and J J having a resurgent spell in their *Careers*  ~~But I can't quite like J J very much. Ana one looks at - and falls in love with. She looks like someone I'd like to have as a friend. She smiles!  J J is always bitching and whining.  

    wtmommy
    wtmommy

    @RosDopwell @YvonneW @Peterdetruse JJ has always been a grade-A bytch, not to mention truly fugly on court. I've never liked her. She really does need an on court makeover, since she's not that awful off court. I'm sure it wasn't easy growing up in the shadow of gorgeous Ana Ivanovic, who is also so sweet and charming, and the scene-stealing, admittedly talented, Djoker, who is also one of my least favorite players. Ana has accepted the decline in her tennis fortunes with good grace, while also trying to improve her game. JJ always seems to just keep following the same silly course of behavior/play, then throws a tantrum when she can't beat the top players. Her constant attempts to throw those panties in our faces seems ludicrous and sophomoric. As for Serena's "sluggishness," let's bear in mind she's played and won more tournaments this year than she has in much of her career; at 30+, that much play can take it out of a person. Just listen to the retired tennis commentators who played past 30; they all describe days when they just did not feel up to playing. Also, Serena is one of the world's most competitive people; as she has often said, she doesn't even like to lose card or board games. I know the feeling, since I also come from a competitive family; when I used to trounce them all in silver screen Trivial Pursuit, they refused to play against me. Maybe JJ is the same way.