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Roger Federer disagrees with Rafael Nadal on World Tour Finals surface

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Roger Federer has won the ATP World Tour Finals six times. (Clive Brunskill/Getty Images)

Roger Federer doesn’t share Rafael Nadal’s opinion that the surface for the ATP World Tour Finals should change every year.

In an interview with CNN, Federer said he believes the season-ending tournament should continue to be played on indoor hard courts. Since a two-year run on outdoor hard courts in Houston from 2003-04, the World Tour Finals have been played on indoor hard courts in Shanghai (where carpet was used one year) and now London. They’ve never been played on clay and were contested on grass only once, in Melbourne in 1974.

“I know there’s an argument to have it on clay, on grass, to have it outdoors — and I did play outdoors in Houston,” Federer said. “I just feel indoors doesn’t have enough play. The indoor season is small. I believe indoors deserves a huge event, which this one is.”

The World Tour Finals completes a fall indoor stretch that featured the Paris Masters last week and ATP 500 events in Valencia, Spain, and Basel, Switzerland, two weeks ago. The ATP also had two 500 events on indoor hard courts in February.

Federer has won the World Tour Finals six times. Nadal, who this week is making his sixth appearance, has yet to win the eight-player, round-robin event. Indoor hard courts are the weakest surface for the Spaniard, who said he’s been “unlucky” in being unable to play the World Tour Finals on a different court. Nadal questioned the fairness of keeping the surface the same year after year.

“In the World Tour Finals, we qualify on all surfaces,” Nadal said Monday. “It would be a little bit great — I’m not talking about me because I know it won’t happen for my generation, so I’m talking for the next generations — [to have] something more fair to the players and I think for the fans it would be something more interesting to change the surface every year.”

Tournament director Andre Silva told CNN that he’s open to the “interesting concept” of changing surfaces but questioned the practicality.

“Even in the same place, it would be pretty unique if you have all of a sudden one year on a hard court in London and the next year on a clay court,” Silva said. “But it’s hard for players to switch surfaces. I think guys who haven’t played on clay for six months wouldn’t be comfortable going back to a surface they haven’t experienced in six months. I’m not opposed to it, but I just think it becomes hard because of the logistics.”

  • Published On Nov 05, 2013
  • 31 comments
    tennisloverog
    tennisloverog

    That Nadal. always selfish ego excuse. fake time-out. too annoying. gamesmanship. excuse. boycotts threatened. always dissatisfaction cry complaints. dissatisfaction to a schedule

    ego and selfish for two-year ranking. And a game is played of EX every year. and huge money get. etc.

    Nadal believes previous tennis eras cannot match the excitement generated by the current stars of the sport

    "Sampras v Ivanisevic match, or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable, It's not really tennis, it is a few swings of the racquet. For me, in the past it was just serve, serve, serve."

    http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/06/25/Wimbledon-Diary-Day-Five.aspx

    Arrogant selfish excuse cheat.

    Nadal after lose Vina ”I must learn to accept this condition and live with the pain”

    Nadal. ” Djokovic is lucky. Give me two years without an injury and”

    Nadal: “Rosol not comparable to Soderling”

    Toni : “it’s ATP’s fault if Rafael never won WTF”

    Toni : ” I hope now Federer and Djokovic will get injured.”

    Nadal: Playing the WTF every year on indoor is not fair."

    fake time-out cheat. bump Rosol arrogant gamnesmanship. selfish two-year-ranking. ugly protest. too annoying, etc.

    Arrogant excuse selfish cheat ego team as usual.

    fanatic arrogant blind fans as usual.

    .

    hilarious.

    prc094
    prc094

    I never watched this stupid tournament cause I despise indoor tennis. What the hell is indoor tennis? give me a break. Why is that allowed in the pros. I get roofs when there's rain, but that's it. What is the purpose of this tournament other then to fill the coffers of tournament organizers. After the 4th Slam & Asia swing the players should get some time to regroup. If they're going to call it world tour finals then you can't plays it on the same surface every year. It favors players who love comfy controlled environment & cement . Already most tennis tournaments are played on Hard courts. Even 2 of the 4 GS are on Hard Courts. That's a huge advantage to hard court lovers. I still say Indoor Tennis SUCKS.

    GinaPogol
    GinaPogol

    I think Roger is right. And at this time of year, indoors is more reliable and less uncomfortable for the fans. He's correct' the other surfaces already have a huge event for them. This one should stay indoors.

    IceBunDemon
    IceBunDemon

    While i think Nadal should be a little more subtle regards his alternative choice, (i.e. we should play on clay) he is right overall. 

    The WTF is not like other tournaments, so anyone saying 'oh, we should change Roland Garros to Indoor hard then' is being rather foolish, they are also likely qualify as a 'fanboy' of an opposing rival to Nadal. The WTF is the best 8 players of the season fighting it out, at the end of the season. It should change each year, in terms of court surfaces. Though, i do understand that switching to clay or grass right at the end of the season when they've been playing hard courts for months would be really hard. So, theres no easy or right decision that can be made to be fair to all the players.

    The WTF is like a final play off, it should be as fair as possible to all the players. In tennis, its only fair when each surface gets its own highlights during the season. The tennis season at the moment though is anything but fair. Hard courts are bad for a tennis players health, particularly a modern day tennis player. The clay season is perfect in its length, the grass season is way too short and the hard court season is way too long, the indoor hard court season is just as bad as the grass season. Each of those surfaces should get equal attention on the tour, and i think that is what Nadal ultimately means to say. Its just unfortunate (ironically) that hes god on clay, so any time he has less than perfect success on another surface people are quick to jump on him when he makes comments about the tour.

    If i could recreate the tour schedule id keep the 4 slams, but they make them further apart on the calender. Id make the Australian open indoor hardcourt, as a way of finishing the indoor season so to speak. Id keep Indian Wells and Miami as they are, then move through the clay season as normal, finishing with Roland Garros. Then, there should be at least be one masters on grass an a warm up tournament, i.e. Queens, before it. Finish the grass season with wimbledon. Then, as normal, a break before the North american swing which i think should stay as normal. Post US open should be keep its asian swing, but then most of the tournaments should dedicated to indoors i believe, which in essense will finish off with the australian open at the beginning of the next season. So, around 1 or two masters and a couple of ATP 500 series. There should be a break before the WTF, so they can practice if need be on a different surface to indoor/hardcourts if the finals will be, say, on grass.

    Ultimately everyone looks out for their own interests, even if they dont mean to. Hence why Nadal says it should change to other surfaces 'cough, clay' and Federer says they shouldnt change 'cough, ive won their 6 times already, why change'. 


    adityasai6988
    adityasai6988

    Why doesn't nadal suggest to have French open on indoor hard courts?

    bob303
    bob303

    Every suggestion Nadal has ever made about the tour, tournaments, ranking system or courts has been entirely self-serving. He's spent too much time under the wing of his uncle and shows a serious lack of ability to be objective about tour-related topics. Most of his suggestions would be detrimental to the game in-general.

    It is especially galling that he's suggest they play on clay since he is the player who has benefited most from the ongoing slowing of surfaces across the season. Without the slowing that has happened he would likely have never won a Wimbledon or US Open. To think he has has more success at Wimbledon now than Stefan Edberg puts the farce that the slowing down of courts is in perspective.

    abosst32
    abosst32

    Aside from the obvious fact that Rafa would like to see the WTFs switch to a clay court so he as a better chance the idea is exciting, and he made a great point in saying that the players qualify on all surfaces throughout the year. As a fan I'd really look forward to an event where the top seeded player is rewarded with the ability to chose the playing surface that year. Or even the possibility of such a spectacle where the surface could be different in each round (or even each match). Such a fantasy event would require a venue built to support courts with the various surfaces, but at the end of it all we'd be sure that the best all around player took the title.

    Ace2020
    Ace2020

    Roger is right. Nadal is lucky there are no Grand Slams on Indoor courts, otherwise he wouldn't have had half the slams he has now. So for him to whine and complain is pathetic. The Indoor season is very small and deserves a big event. Nadal throwing his toys out of his pram just makes him look ridiculous, quite frankly.

    tennisloverog
    tennisloverog

    Yeah, I hope, Nadal never win WTF

    always selfish arrogant ego excuse.w

    tennisloverog
    tennisloverog

    lol. Roger said "Change the surface of RG" when?

    Supposing you say fair truly. Why did the surface of the carpet disappear? You should say it first.

    Madrid changed from indoor to clay why? Shanghai changed from indoor to outdoor why? Do you think that it is fair?

    Nadal's selfish request is always the same. Nadal wish ranking for two years. And always arrogant dissatisfaction to a schedule. And many performance fees are always got and many EX are performed?

    Nadal criticized Roger Federer who is opposed to ranking for two years. Moreover, Nadal said that Roger could not understand since it is not injured like nadal himself.

    Roger Federer = The player currently troubled by the injury of the back from the young time? The Achilles tendon of the ankle was cut in 2005. The gypsum life for about two months. also, The player who became a slump with the illness of lung, mono, etc. repeatedly?.

    Del potro from which it separated from tour for two years in the injury wished ranking when for two years? WHEN?

    Nadal is always the excuse tragic queen.

    The present surface has slow most. Clay. slow grass. A hard court is also slow. It is slow now even at US open which was the fastest surface.

    It is a time too much advantageous to Nadal's play style now. You should appreciate their luck for Nadal and a nadal team.

    However, Nadal is arrogant criticism about the quick surface of the Sampras era?

    ha?

    tennisloverog
    tennisloverog

    Because, Nadal is always excuse selfish queen. Nadal fan are always fanatic arrogant blindness always usual.

    Home2
    Home2

    @adityasai6988 is like saying SW19 should be play on HC or Clay. Roland Garros, French OPen is not its name,  will always be played on clay.

    IceBunDemon
    IceBunDemon

    @adityasai6988 Because he might not have 8 french opens if that was the case lol. But then again, if federer didnt have 3 out of the 4 slams on his two (equally) best surfaces, he wouldnt have 17 slams would he. And lets not forget, the WTF is not like grand slams or any other tournament. If you are good on grass, hardcourt or clay, you have at least 1 chance per year to win a slam. If youre no good on indoor hard courts, you have practically no chance at winning the WTF. How is that fair? Its not. 

    Home2
    Home2

    @bob303 They are all on the same BOAT!  So I agree with Rafa it would be fair to have it play in a different surface. Rafa has won some very fast HC matches.  When Rafa talks people listen... and when you talk ONLY you can hear it.

    tennisloverog
    tennisloverog

    and Roger Federer -- his worst season

    Again

    The 1st place of the favorite player whom a fan chooses, Record of 11-year continuation.

    The sportsmanship prize which ATP players choose is won, Nine records.

    The selfish request and excuse of Nadal are usual.

    Moreover, it is dirtiness that Toni Nadal's ugly and selfish.

    Home2
    Home2

    @Ace2020 WHat a dumb comment. The lucky one is Fede who was beating everybody else when Rafa wasnt around. After Rafa became a pro things changed plenty. But before that he was beating ROddick, Hewitt, Safin. NUFF said!!

    IceBunDemon
    IceBunDemon

    @Ace2020 Well, if we are playing that game, Roger is 'lucky' that 2 out of the 4 slams are hard courts, and one is on grass, and a ridicuolous amount of the season is played on hard courts in general. Nadal is nearly unstoppable on clay, imagine if he had the 'luck' of having most of the season played on his favourite surfaces....


    If 2 of the 4 slams were on clay, Nadal would have more slams than Federer already. If we are talking about objective, then lets be objective.

    JoseGonzalez
    JoseGonzalez

    @Ace2020 Did you consider Roger to be pathetic when he said after losing the ATP World Tour Finals to Novak last year that the surfaces needed to be sped up?  Probably not.  Is it a surprise that Roger prefers for the finals to be held on his best surface?  Of course not.  And yet it's only Rafa that is accused of bias.  There are four majors each year and two of them are held on outdoor hard court.  That's not balance.  This is not about fairness for most of the angry people railing against Rafa.  This is about people swinging one way or the other depending on which guy they idolize.  After all, one could say that Roger is "lucky" that two of the four slams are held on hardcourts (providing more than half of his slams) and that only three of the nine masters events are held on clay.  This sort of irrational fandom is nauseating to me, and even moreso when people try to smuggle in their hatred as a reaction to "the truth".

    In any event, Rafa makes a fair point and history shows that the tournament wasn't always held on indoor hardcourts.  Roger is also correct to point out that indoor hardcourts have no major tournament aside from the WTF.  The problem is, the WTF is so different from a major in that it's the top 8 guys competing and in a different format.  I think, the fair (but not necessarily practical) thing to do, would be to change the WTF to a different surface each year and to change either the Aussie Open or the US Open into an indoor tournament.

    Mrthn_Grl
    Mrthn_Grl

    @Ace2020 and if all Grand Slams were played on clay he'd have even more titles as no other player can even come close on clay. It's a mute point. Did you actually read the article? He is not even talking about himself as it is too late for his generation. 

    tennisloverog
    tennisloverog

    Rafa has won some very fast HC matches. ??? When? Nadal's Fanatic arrogant blindness fan.

    tennisloverog
    tennisloverog

    Old mug Davydenko is better than selfish queen Nadal.

    Arrogant gamesmanship Nadal bump to Rosol, and usual injury excuse?

    tennisloverog
    tennisloverog

    Nadal is luckier than to Roger. The time in the slow present surface is foolish.

    And, Roger has never looked down on a past player or era like Nadal.

    You also know. Roger and Sampras are his friends. Agassi too.

    Nadal?

    Illustrious_Cee
    Illustrious_Cee

    @JoseGonzalez speak on it. federer's fans at this point are incapable to thinking rationally beyond the mere bromides that fall out of their god's mouth. 

    PouyanNayuop
    PouyanNayuop

    @JoseGonzalez @Ace2020 

    Rafa is a doped athlete that is only able to defeat djoko and federer due to his extreme stamina.

    Of course the clay favours him, the ball is slow and he can compensate his onferior technique. It is extremely hard to hit a winner on clay. So he keeps returning the ball until the opponent runs out of fuel or has to take a big risk shot and overstretch. Its not a wonder that djoko and federer have such a high amoutn of unforced errors against rafa. On hard court, their superior technique allows them to finish off rafa. all the running does not help himhere. This is the reason why he is whining.

    tennisloverog
    tennisloverog

    yeah, and Roger -- his worst season

    Again

    The 1st place of the favorite player whom a fan chooses

    Record of 11-year continuation

    The sportsmanship prize which ATP players choose is won. Nine records

    The selfish request and excuse of Nadal are usual.

    Moreover, it is dirtiness that Toni Nadal's ugly and selfish.

    Home2
    Home2

    @PouyanNayuop @JoseGonzalez @Ace2020  Rafa has the edge on HC on both of them. SO what are you talking about it. Rafa has been beating older players since he was 12 yrs old. He is also one of the most tested players in the tour. How many players from Spain had been caught doping? Well Serbia has had at least 3 in the last 3 yrs and the Jocker is defending them. Nadal wants an open record when it comes to drug testing. BTW what's your comment about Novak when a few yrs ago who could barely beat Rafa or Fede and was always complaining or getting sick during the matches or running out of steam. Suddenly he came back beating everybody with force and running and running without getting tired at all. Now that isnt normal at all.

    GinaPogol
    GinaPogol

    @PouyanNayuop @JoseGonzalez @Ace2020 Since when is being able to win by grinding it out (much harder physically and mentally than hitting ace after ace like Sampras) an "inferior technique"? I think it speaks volumes about Nadal's discipline and tenacity. Oh yeah, and do you consider the fact that he gets about tens times the amount of spin as everyone else evidence of  "inferiority?"

    PhilCoates
    PhilCoates

    @PouyanNayuop @JoseGonzalez @Ace2020 

    Nadal has won Grand Slams three times on hard courts in Australia and in the USA and twice on grass at Wimbledon as well as several on clay courts in Paris. In 2013 he won a string of four hardcourt tournaments. Your comments are mean-spirited, inaccurate and utterly worthless. Nadal has played and beaten all-comers on all surfaces and has a winning record against every top ten player.